Saturday, November 04, 2006

Women and Gays, Know Your Place! But Its OK, They're Cool With It...

Well, that didnt take long, did it? The voices in the Muslim community very fearfully raised in opposition to Sheikh 'Stay In The Bedroom Or You Deserve To Be Raped' Hilali's comments that women 'deserve it' have gone from actual, you know, mild condemnation, to...

The Muslim Women's Association, which first admitted to being "shocked" by Hilaly's sermon, now said he was "very good to all Muslim women". Said founding president Aziz El Saddik: "Those who say bad things about him, they have very bad manners."

This is Cholmondley-Warner territory here, 'pieces of uncovered meat' and gentlemen. If Cholmondley-Warner beat his wife and filipino maidservant to keep them in line, thought gang-rape rather than social ostracisation was the best method of keeping women in the bedroom and wore a beard instead of a dinner jacket, anyway.

As Andrew Bolt points out in his excellent article about the way 5000 adoring Muslims greeted the Sheikh after his faked episode 'like a rock star', it is clear that this is no 'tiny minority of extremists' moment. 5000 Australian Muslims do not turn out to greet a man who has said women who step outside of the bedroom without a hijab invite gang rape because of US foreign policy in Iraq. They do it because grotesque, misogynistic savages like Al-Hilali have their support because they agree with his views. No other reason.

Dumbjon also points out the appalling silence of the British Left on this issue. As he says, there were moonbat screams from the rooftop when UKIP's wittiest raconteur Godfrey Bloom made his famous 'cleaning behind the fridge' joke (which did give your writer the chance to make the UKIP Conference giggle by yelling out "He's finishing off behind the fridge" when he was late on stage for his speech that year) it was as if someone had threatened to boil their favourite puppies alive.

But there is as usual a deafening silence when its someone on the darker side of pale saying something which on a relative scale would in any sane moral universe cause approximately 100,000,000 times the outrage. In fact for that matter the Gay Rights lobby has been curiously restrained after something similar in recent weeks over here as well...

"He told me that in a true Islamic state, such punishments were part of Islam: if the person had had a trial, at which four witnesses testified that they had seen the actual homosexual acts. It is part of the central tenets of Islam: that sex outside marriage is forbidden; this is stated in the Koran and the prophet Mohammed had stated that these punishments were due to such behaviours,'" the Imam is alleged to have told Dr Casson.

The punishment in question being execution. Now in a country where Christians are put inside a cell for handing out leaflets saying they think homosexuality is, you know, a bit wrong, you'd think the Gay Rights Brigade would feel bold enough to call for some kind of action on the part of the authorities?


Peter Tatchell, of gay rights group OutRage!, said he was disturbed that British Islamic clergy would endorse the executions of gay and lesbian Muslims:"Muslim and gay people know the pain of prejudice and discrimination. We should be working together to challenge homophobia and Islamophobia. I hope liberal Muslims will speak out in defence of the human rights of lesbians and gay men," he said.

Good God. This guy says that Tatchell and everyone like him should be in the ground, and the best he can manage is 'disturbed'. Whilst reaching out to confirm his ongoing support for the religion which thinks he should be dead. Unbelievable.

Looks like where Islam is concerned, women and gays really do know their place. Mr. Cholmondley-Warner would be so proud...

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Blogger Guardian apostate said...

I wanted to email this to you but I couldn't spot your address. It sort of fits with the topic anyway.

Taking all the available evidence into account this confirms what I suspect many people, aware of the jihadist threat, already believe. The question is how long before those in power manage to arrive at the same conclusions and act accordingly. If ever.

4:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the most extreme interpretation possible of the words of the Quran, Islam holds that sex between unmarried people should be punished with beating and adultery punished with death. This is also true for the Torah and the Bible.

Obviously, this doesn't mean that all Muslims, Jews or Christians support beating for fornicators or execution for adulterers.


8:50 AM  
Blogger Dangerouslysubversivedad said...


All Islamic countries practice harsh punishments up to the point of execution for those things. Not a single Christian one does.

5000 people turned out to cheer a man who says women who dont wear a hijab deserve gang rape. And still you try to defend Islam. Havent you got a single actual moral bone in your body, man?

10:27 AM  
Anonymous JuliaM said...

"...Havent you got a single actual moral bone in your body, man?"

Doesn't look like it, does it?

11:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


You are being extremely harsh on PDF. He is clearly right in drawing to our attention that the Koran, Bible and Torah are all extreme in their treatment adulterers.

I'm sure that he will shortly supply links to modern examples of judicial executions of adulterers that occured in western Christian and Jewish countries. Can't think of any off the top of my head but I doubt PDF is a relativism spouting moron.

2:58 PM  

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