If You're A Brit And There Were A General Election Tomorrow...
How would you vote? I really want to know, so please leave a comment detailing the following:
1. Who you would vote for.
2. Who you would vote for if you were voting under a straight, one-to-one Proportional Representation system.
3. Who you will be voting for if you are eligible to vote in the Local Elections in a few days.
If you feel the overwhelming need to comment on the reasons for your choice, please do so but I will be writing another post in a few days analysing the results of this one. If anybody can be bothered to respond, anyway...
Thanks in advance, DSD.
1. Who you would vote for.
2. Who you would vote for if you were voting under a straight, one-to-one Proportional Representation system.
3. Who you will be voting for if you are eligible to vote in the Local Elections in a few days.
If you feel the overwhelming need to comment on the reasons for your choice, please do so but I will be writing another post in a few days analysing the results of this one. If anybody can be bothered to respond, anyway...
Thanks in advance, DSD.
posted by Dangerouslysubversivedad at 7:50 PM
23 Comments:
BNP!
Look at the long standing poll on the side of my blog if you want some stats. Its inherantly biased because people have to find my blog, but people can only vote once on it.
Vote? I intend to bloody well stand !
Question is though DSD, would you vote for me? (Stands in front of DSD kissing baby's head, before recoiling, realising it's actually William Hague)
1. (under current, first-past-the-post system): BNP.
2. (under PR): UKIP.
3. there's no election here.
comment: I don't want to see the BNP in power with an overall majority, but I'd feel safe voting for them under the current system, simply to "send a message" to Lab/Con.
1) Conservative (to keep Labour out)
2) BNP (to protest)
3) Conservative (to keep Labour out)
I vote tactically - anything to keep Labour out.
I was a life long Labour voter, I even voted for Bernie Grant a few times in Tottenham.
But my politics have changed dramatically since 1997 when Labour eventually got elected.
1. Conservatives
2. Conservatives
3. UKIP
1. BNP
2. A hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question - the party that will eventually emerge with an approriate degree of ethnocentrism and sensible economic policies.
3. No election where I live. If I still lived in London I would tactically vote to oust Labour.
Like tottenhamlad I am a life long Labour voter - to my shame I voted for them again in 2001. Voting Labour by the metropolitan middle class is about smugness and status. 9/11 showed me that my smugness came at too high a price.
Conservative.
Well normally.
1, Conservatives
2, UKIP
3, None here
But I can't vote for Dave Cameron, I think he is a power seeker just for the sake of power, he will not hold true to core values. Compare his new environmentalism, he's only been 'green' for about 6months, before that he barely mentioned it, if at all.
Ideally I want to vote for an old fashioned traditionalist patriotic Conservative party.
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However when I read things like, Ted Cantle thinks some towns in England are 'too white' and therefor 'unhealthy'.
I must admit I am tempted to vote BNP for reasons of self defence.
These Marxists in charge of our country at the moment want to get rid of the English people. As the country becomes less 'white' they consider it 'progress'.
Astonishingly even Conservative councillors like Gav Ayling think a vote for the BNP would be a good message to his party.
http://www.gavpolitics.co.uk/blog/2006/04/17/all-united/
I been reading his blog recently, I think its good.
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Tottenhamlad, I am supprised you are voting conservative, after reading your blog I thought you were a full on BNP member.
Tbh, hearing that you were previously a labour supporter I lost respect for you, just like Laban voting for shit all your life and now don't like the taste.
Voting for Labour even though they were losing still has an effect on the political spectrum.
What caused your politics to change dramatically? I will search your blog if it is there.
I used to complain about the Conservative government years ago, but my parents warned me what would happen if Labour got in, they were exactly right.
Probably Conservative if only as they stand the best chance of getting rid of my waste of space Nu Labour MP, the convicted libelist and out and out shit Paul Flynn MP.
1. Lib Dems
2. Tories
3. Labour (if I bother)
Reasons
1. Our MP is a Lib Dem, and pretty sound on civil liberties and constitutional issues. The seat is marginal and the opposition is Labour.
2. My political views are vaguely Whiggish, but I want the Tories to win the next general election.
3. Our Labour councillors seem to care about local issues for local people. The City Council is intermittently controlled by Lib Dems, whose approach to local democracy seems to consist of saying: "Oh, by the way, we're about to say yes to a new homeless shelter down your street. Are there any heartless nimbies among you who would like to complain?"
Dave,
What can I say? we all learn by experience which in turn can lead us to change our political views and outlook on life.
TL
1/ BNP.
2/ BNP.
3/ BNP.
I don't particularly want to be governed nationally by the BNP, but I will continue to vote for them until such time as at least one of the Gang Of Three takes immigration as an issue seriously. Poll after poll demonstrates that the vast majority of Brits want an end to mass immigration, but still the ruling elite press forward with their multiculturalism experiment.
Had David Davis won the Tory leadership Election and stayed true to their 'it's not racist to talk about immigration' Election sentiments, The Conservatives would probably have my vote, at least nationally speaking.
Cameron is a sell-out and has been quick to adopt the 'you're a nasty racist - end of argument' tactic, which I find despicable.
I'm a life-long Tory voter but I would sooner cut my nuts off with a rusty pair of secateurs than vote for that holier-than-thou turncoat twat.
BNP to all three questions. I want my country back.
Totally agree with TNC ...answer BNP to all three questions. Cameron is the same old let's hear it for the black vote and to hell with anyone else. I want my country back.
1. Who you would vote for.
the party of peace
2. Who you would vote for if you were voting under a straight, one-to-one Proportional Representation system.
the person of peace
3. Who you will be voting for if you are eligible to vote in the Local Elections in a few days.
n/a
ps who are all these people who think they want their country back.nobody has their own country they just share it with those who live there. they sound like potential dictators imo.
1) bnp
2) bnp
3) conservatives
Conservatives normally. BNP to protest.
Conservatives in the local election because there is no BNP candidate.
I could never have ever imagined saying that in my life but there you go.
Also im effectively voting myself out the country so ill set up a blog in Brazil when i get there lol!
Alison! i cant imagine you leaving the country :)
Why do you say your voting yourself out of the country? Assume we win control of parliament on may the fourth (i know i know but imagine) which policy were you meaning?
Fair nuff 1in6 billion, mind if I bring the family round to your house and take over your bedroom and lounge, oh and by the way make sure you get plenty of stuff we like in the freezer before we arrive, we're quite finicky about what we eat. Oh, and no cartoons in the house please, we reserve the right to get quite homicidal about that sort of thing you know.
Think about it.
Dangerouslysubversivedad
Your are welcome to the house.
there are already some people living there so you will have to see how it goes. you might find some claiming the house is there own but don't worry they are just a bit possessive. live the way you wish although you might find some who want to tell you what is the correct way to live but again don't worry they are just a bit scared of change. of course, you understand, sharing is not always easy for some. i hope you will also be able to share as it will make your life in the new house more pleasent. i would suggest you mingle with the other inhabitants but if you are also a bit scared of them, as some like to intimidate, i hope you will not resort to the same tactics. if you do, well, some say you get what you give.
1. when someone says "mine, mine, mine" it reminds me of a young child. why do you feel the need to say its mine? it gives the impression you have more right to it than someone else.
2. why limit yourself. you were born in the world. why not say 'its my world.'? which you share with 6 billion others humans and many other species of animals and plants.
3. maybe i don't understand you when you say 'it is mine'. what does it mean to you when you say 'it is my england'?
4. i did consider my comments before i sent them. they seem fair to me but correct me if you feel they are incorrect.
5. i am not so sure i passed a judgement, i was only making the observation that people who claim something is theirs, if given power, are imo more likly to be dictatorial or even dictators. imo if people could see we live on a planet and not just in part of it we might be able to start looking for solutions to the problems that the humans have had for as long as they have been recording their history. things like fear, hunger and violence have shaped our world for so long it is imo time to see the common problems and not keep play this game of spot the difference.
1 in 6 (can I call you that?) - the problem with NOT playing Spot the Difference is that you dont see the people who dont respect your point of view - or to be more precise don't respect your right *to have it in the first place* - until they jump you.
Wouldnt you say that someone who has, for example built a house with their own money/sweat has a bigger right to it than someone who hasnt contributed a thing to it? There is a story I often read in my Nursery called The Little Red Hen. It particularly applies I would say.
Pretending that its all One World simply isnt realistic. A Roman General called Venetius pointed out thousands of years ago that 'those who long for peace must first prepare for war'. Peace is all very well when you are sitting happily in a relatively free democracy like ours. But peace and love and all the rest of it are fine for you and I, but sod all use to a Tibetan who is being ethnically cleansed by the Chinese, or an East Timoran being brutalised by Indonesian Muslims, or a Coptic Christian in Egypt, a homosexual being hanged in Iran for his sexual orientation, a Jew under siege in Israel by millions of 'neighbours' he knows want him dead...or Mary-Ann Leneghan, Isiah Young-Sam or Kriss Donald.
I wish we are all the same. But we aren't. Pretending otherwise just makes the problems worse.
DSD,
Still loving your blog. I have two points. Hope I'm not too late to the party for you to see them:
1 - You mean Vegetius, I believe.
2 - I wouldn't bother wasting much effort on 1 in 6, he doesn't seem to understand these things. 'Living on a thin line' (Kinks) might well make his head explode.
Aristotle said (I'm told) that the difference between the educated and the uneducated is as great as that between the living and the dead. Worth remembering, I think.
Dangerouslysubversivedad
i am sorry i don't understand the first paragraph. it seems to be saying that if you stop looking for the differences in people you will be attacked. ?? what i mean by not first of all looking for the differences in people is that all people have the same basic challanges in life. water, food, home and a feeling of security. this does not mean that i think we are all the same. in fact i think we are all different and i am happy we are al different.
your second paragraph i would agree if you are talking about a house you built but i think you are talking about the uk. i don´t think you can explain it quite so simply. how did the uk gain its wealth? how does the west gain its wealth? imo by not paying a fair price for the raw products it buys from the third world. you may say thats life but i think it is a major cause for people migrating. if the west etc. paid a fair price, people in the third world could make a decent living and would not be interested in moving to the west. i don't know if i read the read hen story when i was young but i googled it and can up with a simple version
http://www.bres.boothbay.k12.me.us/wq/nnash/WebQuest/little_red_hen.htm
i think the second version i found appeals to me more.
http://www.econedlink.org/lessons/index.cfm?lesson=EM389
you have to click on the The Little Red Hen (story) link at the start of the Process paragraph.
the only difference is the ending and i think people can learn from their mistakes. although you do need the kind soul of the hen.
i do not pretend it is one world. it is one world. the lines on the map only exist in our heads. they were created by some of us who wished to control others. they are the evolution of centuries of fighting. accepting we are one world is just taking away the lines in your head. of course this will not change the world overnight but it enables us to start looking for permanent solucions and not continue the them and us struggle. if course it will not help those who are in parts of the world with governments which wish to restrict or control other but i think it will help their children or maybe their grandchildren.
i don't wish we are all the same. i am happy with differences but we do have similar problems. imo grouping everyone in ethnic groups fails to see that in every group there are 'good' and 'bad'. the 'bad' are able to have so much influance because we alienate the 'good' from joining our 'good'. thus allowing us to control the 'bad'.
p_pandar
you were not born in this world!! you will be telling me next you are not human. lol. i understand your line of thinking but feel it is a bit out dated. many people identify with the country of their birth as a means of giving themselves an identity. imo many of these identities are false. many exist not because of a strong national identiy but as a dislike of others. take away the enemy and this group fall apart. you say you are english. which form of english? someone like you from the south coast may feel similar with someone from the north when comparing yourselves against someone from the far east but take away this common dislike and you will not feel the same connection. imo it is sad to think that maybe the only way the people of the world could unite would be if we are attacked by aliens thus giving us a common enemy. i also think that the true you is not something that needs a physical country in order for you to exist. there are groups like the jews or gypsies whom for centuries did not have a country but their culture has survived because it is in their hearts and they live it.
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